An online discussion between artists Rory Pilgrim and Sands Murray-Wassink. In this event, the artists discuss Murray-Wassink’s new exhibition I am not American (I love Adrian, I miss Carolee, I follow Hannah) at Auto Italia, and explore a number of key works within his archive of paintings, drawings and studio ephemera produced between 1993-2021.

Sands Murray-Wassink (b. 1974, USA) is a painter, body artist, writer and perfume collector based in Amsterdam. His work is rooted in forms of intersectional feminist and queer art. Recent presentations include Rijksakademie van Beeldende Kunsten, Amsterdam (2021); mistral, Amsterdam (2021); Azkuna Zentroa, Bilbao (2021); Stroom Den Haag (2019); La Casa de Barro (2017); W139, The Hague (2015); Kunstinstituut Melly, Rotterdam (2013); Cokkie Snoei Galerie, Rotterdam (2012); Robert Miller Gallery, New York (2011); Montehermoso Kulturunea, Vitoria-Gastei (2010); and MAK Museum, Vienna (2007).

Rory Pilgrim (b. 1988, UK) is an artist based in Bristol. He works in a wide range of media including songwriting, composing music, film, music video, text, drawing and live performances. Pilgrim aims to challenge the nature of how we come together, speak, listen and strive for social change through sharing and voicing personal experience. Exhibitions include Between Bridges, Berlin (2019); Andriesse-Eyck Gallery, Amsterdam NL (2018); South London Gallery (2018); Rowing, London (2017); Plymouth Art Centre, Plymouth (2017); Flat Time House, London (2016); Site Gallery, Sheffield (2016); and sic! Raum für Kunst, Luzern CH (2014). Pilgrim was the winner of the Prix de Rome (2019).